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Forgeries of high value rare modern Irish Coins

Post#1 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:36 pm

Beware of forgeries
There are an increasing number of fakes being manufactured of rare date coins, recently manufactured to a high standard.
Check the Irish coinage website for high quality reference images of genuine coins if you are in doubt.


There will be more, so watch out for them :shock:

Forgeries which have been noted are as follows:

Fakes of the 1995 20 Pence coin exist—first seen in October 2014.
One fake confirmed, UNC.

Fakes of the 1943 Half Crown—first seen in February 2015.
Four seen so far, all high grade, and all with the same flaws, thus from the same dye.
Several have appeared on ebay, offered as replicas.

Fakes of the 1937 Half Crown—first seen in November 2015.
One seen so far, high grade, as detailed below.



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1943 Half Crown fake

Post#2 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:47 pm

1943 Half Crown forgery.

The two Halfcrowns share flaws not seen on genuine coins and these are as follows:
(Source: Numismatic Society of Ireland)

Obverse
1.            Metal blob on bottom part of “4” in 1943
2.            Slight distortion on top part of the “1” in “1943”
3.            Raised double scratch to the left of the first “é” of “éire”
Reverse
1r.            Metal blob between “i” and “n” of “coróin”—This is easy to spot
2r.            Metal blob or spike on horse’s chest behind front leg
3r.            Poor definition of the hairs in the horse’s tail

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Re: Forgeries of rare modern Irish Coins

Post#3 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:14 pm

Halfcrown 1943 forgery flaws indicated:

1r. Metal blob between “i” and “n” of “coróin”—This is easy to spot
2r. Metal blob or spike on horse’s chest behind front leg
3r. Poor definition of the hairs in the horse’s tail

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Re: Forgeries of rare modern Irish Coins

Post#4 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:26 pm

1937 Half Crown forgery.

See below for photos of a good forgery of a 1937 Irish half crown. It was on sale on ebay in late November 2015 for a Buy It Now price of $850. Over 1,000 people had viewed it and the listing was to finish on 29th December. The seller was advised by a member of the Numismatic Society of Ireland that it was a fake. Seller had genuinely not realised it was a fake. It was the only such coin he has for sale. He said it was part of a large collection he had purchased 3 years ago, did not realise it was a fake and promptly ended the listing.

As you can see from the photos below the coin has a grey metallic appearance rather than a nice silver colour. The overall design is also weak and the “wear” is uneven. This is the best fake 1937 2/6 yet seen. Other 1937s had a split in the line under the horse above the “6”.

TheHalfcrowns has flaws not seen on genuine coins and these are as follows:
(Report and images: Numismatic Society of Ireland)

Obverse
1.       Raised blob of metal – below “é” and near the harp and on letter “é”.
2.       Various areas of weak design on the harp not resulting from normal wear.

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Reverse
1.       Line under the horse (under front hooves) has been reshaped or touched up.
2.       Weak design; lower legs of the horse and the shéibhiú or dot over the “c”.
3.       Small raised blobs of metal beside the tail.
4.       Indistinct lines on the tail.

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