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Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 07 Oct 2016 21:09
by Mac
Gibbons & Williams issued 30 Shilling, £1, £3, £5, and £10 notes. Their notes were among the more attractive of the period, also being printed on both sides. 30 Shilling £1and £3 notes were payable in Dublin only, with £5 and £10 notes being payable in London also.

The bank failed in 1835.

Denominations: 30/-, £1, £3, £5, £10.
As far as I know, there are no denominations higher than £10 known.

The printed area on all the notes was the same. 200mm x 105mm.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin 1833–1835

Posted: 07 Oct 2016 21:22
by Mac
A Gibbons & Williams £5 note 1833.
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Gibbons & Williams £5, dated 1 September 1833.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 21 Oct 2016 20:30
by DOC
Interesting to see that two variants of the £1 note are known. Photos attached.

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 04 Nov 2016 20:45
by Mac
The Gibbons & Williams £10 note is one that isn't seen too often.
This one is cut-cancelled, but carefully reassembled for collectors.

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Gibbons & williams £10, 1 july 1833

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 09 Nov 2016 01:55
by Mac
Thirty Shilling notes & Three Pound notes were both among the most common denominations issued by Irish banks up to 1844, when 30 shilling notes were prohibited. £3 notes continued to be issued up to 1915.

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Gibbons & Williams Thirty Shillings 1833

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Gibbons & Williams Three Pounds 1833

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 10 Nov 2016 22:36
by DOC
Here is the second type of 30 Shilling note for this bank.

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 11 Nov 2016 19:32
by Mac
I like the notes of this bank. It will be the first Private Bank to get its own page in the main web site!

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 11 Nov 2016 20:07
by ThePloughman
Are there 2 different designs for the 3 pound and 5 pound notes?

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 12 Nov 2016 16:34
by DOC
Good question. It is entirely possible that there are two types of £3 and £5 note. The Type 1 £1 and 30 Shilling notes are dated 1st July 1833. If there are £3 and £5 notes of this date, they may have a design different to that of the later dates. It would be interesting to see if anyone has a £3 or £5 dated 1st July 1833 so we could check this out.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 13 Nov 2016 18:45
by Mac
We'll have to have a look through the past sales of notes for a £3 and £5 dated 1 July 1833 and see. There have been a few of these notes turning up in sales. I have a scan of another £5 notes, must haul it out and see what date it is...

EDIT: Found it!
Here is a £5 note dated 1st July 1833. A definite pattern in emerging here, but only in the dates used. this £5 note is the same design as the one above, with the later date of 1st Sept 1833.

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Gibbons & Williams 5 Pounds 1 July 1833

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 14 Nov 2016 20:27
by DOC
Interesting to see that the 1st July 1833 £5 note has a similar design to the later dates. This strongly suggests that there is only one type for the £5 notes. Given the low issue numbers for the £10 notes, there is most likely only one type for the £10 notes also (No.99 is the highest number I have seen, see attached). However, it would still be interesting to see a £3 note dated 1st July 1833 to confirm if there is just one type for this denomination also.

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 19 Nov 2016 00:09
by DOC
Had another look at the £5 notes. There appears to be a difference between the note dated 1st July 1833 and the later dates. The 'Five Pounds' centre and top right is hollow for the early date but shaded for the later dates.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 21 Nov 2016 14:01
by ThePloughman
Yes, you're right. That's definitely a difference between the 2 fivers.
So the tenners probably have a difference too, if a later date is seen.
I guess the £3 notes will be different as well.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 12 Dec 2016 23:11
by Mac
That £10 note above, No.99, is the highest number I have seen for the tenners.

Below is a scan of £3 note number 5485, 4th Dec 1834, which seems to me to be the same design as the 1 sept 1833 notes.


Gibbons & williams Three Pounds 4th Dec 1834.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 16 Dec 2016 01:49
by ThePloughman
Not looking good for ther 3 pounders then!

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 17 Dec 2016 15:13
by Mac
Probably not, given the date on the note above.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 18 Dec 2016 20:23
by DOC
I am still hopeful that there is a second £3 note type :) It would be interesting to see a £3 note dated 1st July 1833. The earliest date I have seen so far is 1st Sept. 1833. A second £10 type is possible if a date later than 1st July 1833 was issued.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 19 Dec 2016 02:43
by ThePloughman
Maybe there's a 3 pound proof of an earlier design out there somewhere. It kinda fits that there would be 2 types for it too.

Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 06 May 2017 17:58
by Mac
Here is an interesting Gibbons & Williams fiver.
It appears to have 'Johnstown' written across the signature panel—I have no idea what meaning that could have.
This is also the highest serial number I have seen for the £5 denomination.

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Posted: 08 May 2017 10:38
by gaelicyoda
Is it "Johnston"?