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Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 02 May 2018 17:14
by ThePloughman
Here's another strange denomination!

A Ross Bank 9 Shilling note. Date looks like 23 Jan 1800.

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Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 03 May 2018 22:33
by DOC
The 9 shilling denomination was also know as a 'Silver' note. The Ross Bank had two registered partners, George Roe and his brother Peter. This one is signed by Peter Roe.

I attach a later example of a 4 Guinea note from this bank. This denomination is readily available to collectors as a hoard of partly issued and non-issued notes was discovered some time ago. The attached note is a fully issued example from 1814.

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 04 May 2018 17:27
by Mac
I have seen very few fully issued examples of these notes. That's quite a nice one.

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 17 May 2018 19:43
by DOC
The 3 Guinea note appears to be scarcer than the 4 Guinea note. Here is a partially issued example without signature.

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 18 May 2018 19:23
by Mac
I can't recall seeing a 3 Guinea note before!

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 22 May 2018 20:52
by DOC
Here is a fully issued 1 Guinea note signed by Peter Roe. Few examples survive.

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 31 May 2018 22:57
by ThePloughman
I figure 3 and 4 Guineas are scarcer denominations. Are there other odd notes, 5 or 6 Guineas perhaps?

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 02 Jun 2018 12:16
by DOC
For this bank, the lower denominations are much scarcer. The primary reason for this is that a hoard of partly issues 4 guinea notes turned up some time ago. I have not seen a 5 or 6 Guinea note from this bank but it is possible they were issued. The only other recorded denomination is for 30 Shillings (scan attached).

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 18 Jun 2018 01:46
by ThePloughman
I guess that as many of these banks went broke without paying their notes up, there are potentially a lot of unpaid notes hanging around for us collectors.
How often do hoards turn up, any new material recently?

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 19 Jun 2018 18:57
by DOC
Irish Private Bank notes are generally quite scarce. Hoards are few and far between ! Not much material has turned up in recent years. The most recent old note hoard that I can recall (not a Private Bank) was a group of cancelled Hibernian Joint Stock Bank notes from the 1820's. Some of these are posted on the Forum. I would be curious to know if anyone can remember how the large group of Ffrenchs' Bank notes (Dublin & Tuam) originally came to market.

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 22 Jun 2018 09:06
by Mac
Yes, the Hibernian Token notes which turned up were the first issued examples I had seen. I had recorded only the odd proof before that.

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 29 Sep 2019 12:05
by DOC
The vignette on Ross Bank 3 Guineas and 4 Guineas notes depicts a female figure leaning on an anchor looking out to see. I have seen this vignette on other Irish Private Bank notes and post bills and wondered if it has any significance. The attached link provides an insight and indicates that this depiction is symbolic of ‘Hope’.

https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collectio ... 42045.html

Re: Ross Bank 1800

Posted: 29 Sep 2019 12:22
by Mac
HIbernia hoping for a better future...

Probably a standard design idea in use by banknote printers of the day. Also used on some later joint stock banknotes, and Bank of Ireland notes.