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Series B 100 Pound, Granuaile design?

Post by Vellakare » 03 Jun 2015 05:04

The missing link with Series B is the 100 Pound note. I heard that the proposal was to have Granuaile on the B Series 100, but does Servicon or the Central Bank ever produce a 'pattern' design?

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Post by Mac » 03 Jun 2015 10:57

You are correct about the design.

A pattern was done by Servicon, but the Central Bank had not ordered a design for the note, so as far as I know no proper proofs were printed. I was told back around 1994 that the Central Bank does not have any copies of the design.

Pre=production designs do exist—I seem to remember seeing a picture of one a long time ago, but it may have been the AIB £100 note of the day—but despite my best efforts, i have never been able to track one down.

The note designs will turn up eventually, these things always do.

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Re: Series B 100 Pound, Granuaile design?

Post by Vellakare » 03 Jun 2015 15:09

It would not surprise me if you mistook the AIB/Provincial Bank note as being it, because to this day, they are more Irish in appearance than any other currency in the country, and were more Irish in design, tradition and style than even their Southern counterparts.

With a bit of messing around, we can speculate on its appearance.

First, all the series B notes featured a calligraphic background.

Second, it would have a small face full length portrait. the Carolan 50 gives a clue.

Third, the rear, maps and sailing ships.

Colour. It will have to contrast to the 50 to avoid confusion. It won't be Red, likely Turquoise.

I'll get a new laptop and spend a few hours working out the design. If anything it will be relaxing.

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Post by Mac » 03 Jun 2015 23:23

Hmm, the predominant colours used on B Series were:

£1 • Green
£5 • Orange
£10 • Red
£20 • Blue
£50 • Brown

Taking precedent (A Series, and Ploughman) that leaves Purple as the main unused colour, so I'd go for it as being the main colour of the £100.

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Re: Series B 100 Pound, Granuaile design?

Post by Series B notes » 09 Oct 2017 23:47

Actually, I'd suspect yellow as the colour, because the 10 pound is more purple than red. Yellow has not been used on any Irish notes, though, so this theory may be a tad unrealistic.

Or maybe it would be a less purplish red. You never know...

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Post by Vellakare » 21 Oct 2017 12:52

I read on Wikipedia that it was to be in Mauve, with the Galtee mountains (A map) presumably, as the dominant rear element.

Whatever it is, the mid 1980's recession rendered the need for a 100 Pound note redundant. Even 50's were relatively scarce until the series C note emerged in 1995, and with the economic boom years, the 50 became much more heavily used.

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Post by Vellakare » 03 May 2018 15:49

I saw this statue. Immediately my brain 'flashed' - YES!

This fits the design style of the Series B. Considering its going to be LARGE Red note measuring 188mm x 98mm, with a Turquoise Green underlay print as the secondary colour, I think this would be the dominant vignette, in the centre in the same vein as the Carolan 50.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/18155204720065616/

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Post by Mac » 29 Aug 2018 00:27

I have been waiting for a long time to see a picture of the B Series £100 note, as have we all.
We wait no longer!

Here is a picture of the face and reverse of the first design mock-up of the Irish Series B £100 note, produced in 1979. The date is interesting, 10.9.79, a nod there from the designers to the first date of the A Series notes!

This mock-up was submitted by Servicon to the Central Bank of Ireland in August 1979. The so-called Siobhán McKenna note, which used the Irish actress as a model for the portrait. Note the old style numbering system, used on A Series notes. Whilst the overall design was broadly acceptable, the portrait design was rejected.

The map of Ireland on the reverse is based on the earliest known example of a map of the island, dating from 1567.

I had the notion that the note featured a map of Ireland on the reverse, must have read it somewhere way back in the 1980s. Of course, as time goes by, I began to doubt my recollection, especially as I couldn’t find any reverences to it in the meantime.

Series B £100 note with Grace O’Malley, Grainuaile portrait.
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Post by DOC » 29 Aug 2018 19:42

That's an amazing find and great to see the design after so much speculation :) I like the overall appearance but agree that the portrait is somehow not quite right. It's a pity it did not make it to the final production stage.

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Post by Mac » 31 Aug 2018 19:37

Here is a later design, with corrections, adjustments and a revised portrait.
This is much closer to what the final note would have looked like in general appearance.

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Post by Vellakare » 01 Sep 2018 10:25

Lads......lets just say.....WOW.

I've been waiting over 30 years to see this, and you guys were right - it would - eventually turn up.

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Post by gaelicyoda » 02 Sep 2018 16:18

Fantastic find Mac!! 😊
Great to finally see this note after such a long wait - as with Irish notes in general, yet more variation here. Like you pointed out, the keeping of the A Series serial number format, but also interesting overlapping of the numbers in the denomination - none of the other B Series notes had that AFAIK. Not a fan of the portrait either on your original I have to admit... kind of looks like an afterthought

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Post by Mac » 02 Sep 2018 17:11

gaelicyoda wrote:
02 Sep 2018 16:18
Fantastic find Mac!!
All thanks to those wonderful people in the Central Bank of Ireland archives :D
gaelicyoda wrote:
02 Sep 2018 16:18
...also interesting overlapping of the numbers in the denomination
The gap between the numerals was opened up on later revisions, the CBI Governor of the day didn’t like it.

The 1979 note was an early submission, a mock-up of the note, rather like a print out of a CAD drawing in today's terms. Lots of changes were made subsequently. Sill, the basic core design was there from the start.
The second ship to the right was also to be removed in later versions.

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Post by Vellakare » 02 Sep 2018 19:04

I’ve posted this to my Facebook.

It’s caused a mild degree of interest, but ultimately - out of respect - I need to give respect to those who actually released it.
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Post by DOC » 03 Sep 2018 19:54

High denomination notes are not popular in Ireland. Try paying for an item with a 200 euro note and I expect you will encounter a look of bewilderment !

On the £100 marked specimen above, the portrait although much improved looks too modern. In addition, the ship in the top right hand corner would be expected to obscure the serial number. It would be great to know more about the entire project. Mac, how about a book or documentary ? :)

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Re: Series B 100 Pound, Granuaile design?

Post by ThePloughman » 04 Sep 2018 00:03

Hey. Great to see this! That is a super currency bill, especially the reverse.
Sure is a shame they didn't make any.

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Post by Mac » 09 Sep 2018 18:50

Hopefully more images will come to light in the near future, maybe even some proofs of the final version.

I'm doing up a page for the web site currently, and there will be an article on the B Series £100 in the next issue of Coin News.
We live in exciting (numismatic) times.

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Re: Series B 100 Pound, Granuaile design?

Post by Vellakare » 13 Oct 2018 21:38



My housemate Brendan Carey (Northern Irish from Warrenpoint has photoshopped this.

This is what we get. Again, I’m likely to do a third and possibly more reworkings.

Since we come along to 1986, and a discussion of size reductions for series C, that jumping from a £1 to £5 Banknote as the lowest denomination was highly regressive for the ordinary working class people in Ireland.

Series C should have commenced in 1990, with the issue of a £2 note when the £1 coin was issued.

It’s my considered opinion that this world measure 124mm x 60mm

Then the £5 longer at 132mm x 64mm
£10 140 x 68
£20 148 x 72
£50 156 x 72
£100 164 x 72

The question is - who do you put on the £2?

Definitely Catherine Mc Auley

And who knows. Granuaille ends up on the £100 anyway - reworked into the series C design.

Food for thought!
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Re: Series B 100 Pound, Granuaile design?

Post by Vellakare » 13 Oct 2018 21:46

Or do I put Granuaille on a £2 note, in the Seroes C style. In the dimensions I’ve considered using the ships as the secondary vignette.

In Grey?

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Re: Series B 100 Pound, Granuaile design?

Post by ThePloughman » 14 Oct 2018 00:05

Put the Old version of Granuaille on the £2, the one from 1979.

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