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Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 17:07
by Mac
The last recorded prefixes of the Irish C Series notes are as follows:

£5: 15.10.99 • ZVN, no known hanging sequences.
£10: 02.07.99 • VMU, leaving a hanging sequence with W; X; Y; Z unrecorded for_MU. MPN was also left hanging for a long time, until it was recorded for 13.01.98.
£20: 09.12.99 • MWV, no known hanging sequences.
£50: 08.03.01 • YRR, leaving a hanging sequence with ZRR unrecorded.
£100: 22.08.96 • FAK, leaving a hanging sequence with CAK; DAK; EAK unrecorded.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 24 Apr 2019 19:28
by JohnnyQ
Did anyone ever get any reason for switching from the first half of the alphabet to the latter half? It seems to have been done at short notice. I have a good few packaging cards that had been prepared for the old prefixes then changed for the new ones. For example two £20 cards prepared as EBF and issued as SMP. Also ACF issued as VMP. £10 prepared as BCA and KBA issued as WMN and XMN.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 24 Apr 2019 19:37
by JohnnyQ
The £10

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 25 Apr 2019 19:50
by DOC
That is interesting and looks like it happened in a hurry. I never did hear why. I wonder was it a measure to combat counterfeiting?

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 29 Apr 2019 20:45
by Mac
We never did come up with a reason for that.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 30 Apr 2019 19:44
by JohnnyQ
In case you haven’t seen the packaging before, the crude red star on the card is put there by The Central Bank to indicate that the block had replacement notes in it.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 30 Apr 2019 19:51
by Mac
Yes, we used to chase those stars in the old days of the C Series ;)

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 30 Apr 2019 20:06
by JohnnyQ
The good old days! Hahaha

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 10 Apr 2020 11:43
by JohnnyQ
I’ve only just noticed that for the last issue of the £50 note when they changed the sec of the dept of finance to John Hurley they also changed his title from Runaí an Roinne Airgeadais to Ard-Runaí. 😳 Only took me 19 years to spot!

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 10 Apr 2020 22:08
by Mac
Heh, just shows you gotta read the small print...

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 10 Apr 2020 23:06
by JohnnyQ
I wonder when the central bank changed its name to the central bank and financial services authority would it have sparked a note redesign if we still had Irish pounds at the time.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 23:24
by Mac
I'd say it would hove had to change its title on the notes in a similar fashion to the change from Currency Commission to Central Bank.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 21 Apr 2020 17:08
by JohnnyQ
Would have been an awful mouthful on the front of the notes! I noticed that although the Secretary of the department of finance title changed to Secretary General half way through Paddy Mullarkeys term they didn't change it on the notes until John Hurley became Secretary.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 21 Apr 2020 21:25
by Mac
JohnnyQ wrote:
21 Apr 2020 17:08
Would have been an awful mouthful on the front of the notes!
Not to mention squeezing it onto the small panel on the reverse for the English bit.

JohnnyQ wrote:
21 Apr 2020 17:08
I noticed that although the Secretary of the department of finance title changed to Secretary General half way through Paddy Mullarkeys term they didn't change it on the notes until John Hurley became Secretary.
They would have had to do a new set of plates for that. It would have created a nice extra Type in the series for us collectors, not to mention Specimens and Replacements to look for!

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 21 Apr 2020 22:06
by JohnnyQ
There didn’t seem to be any noticeable difference in the notes when they changed from Maurice Doyle to Maurice O’Connell unlike the B series where there was a noticeable Improvement in the quality of printing and a deterioration in the quality of the paper when it changed from O’Cofaigh to Doyle.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 21 Apr 2020 22:33
by Mac
They changed to cheaper reverse printing in on the £10 and £20 notes dated in 1998, paper stayed good though.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 22 Apr 2020 10:05
by JohnnyQ
I’ve also only just noticed, I’m really bored at the moment from lockdown, that they increased the spacing between the individual letters and numbers slightly when they moved to the second half of the alphabet for series numbers. The spacing had stayed exactly the same as on the B series when the C series was released.

Re: Last recorded prefixes of Irish C Series banknotes

Posted: 22 Apr 2020 14:22
by Mac
Heh, you really are bored!
That is interesting though. I will dig out a pair of notes and an accurate ruler and have a look at that.