Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Banknotes issued by Irish Private Banks ca1700–ca1833
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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by Mac » 08 May 2017 15:32

gaelicyoda wrote:Is it "Johnston"?
Could be that alright. The signatory then?

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by gaelicyoda » 08 May 2017 17:00

Mac wrote:Could be that alright. The signatory then?
That's what I'm thinking, but I don't know much about this bank TBH so I couldn't tell you for sure ...

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by ThePloughman » 04 Jul 2017 01:31

I'd vote 'Johnston' there. most likely a signature.

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by DOC » 12 Nov 2018 21:00

Yes, I think you are correct, it is Johnston & Co. They acted as agents in London for some of the Irish banks. It is interesting to see that the £5 and £10 notes were also payable in London at Jones, Loyd & Co. but not so for the lower denominations.

The appearance of Johnston & Co. in the signature area is difficult to explain. I wonder if they actually issued this note?

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by Mac » 13 Nov 2018 08:52

DOC wrote:
12 Nov 2018 21:00
The appearance of Johnston & Co. in the signature area is difficult to explain. I wonder if they actually issued this note?
An interesting notion, and quite plausible considering that the notes were payable in London.

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by ThePloughman » 14 Dec 2018 01:33

Mac wrote:
13 Nov 2018 08:52
DOC wrote:
12 Nov 2018 21:00
The appearance of Johnston & Co. in the signature area is difficult to explain. I wonder if they actually issued this note?
An interesting notion, and quite plausible considering that the notes were payable in London.
I guess there is a lot about the operations of the private banks that remains to be discovered.

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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by DOC » 12 Aug 2019 20:43

The notes issued by Gibbons & Williams were innovative for their time having features such as printing on both sides and pre-printed dates. An unusual feature of their notes is the absence of the partners’ names. Here is a link providing excellent information about the Williams family and those involved in ‘Gibbons & Williams’ Bank.

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.com/2011 ... homas.html

It appears that Hutchins Thomas Williams was the lead partner and the main decision maker in the Bank. The Gibbons family had only a minor involvement with one member occupying a junior clerical role. The signature of George Gibbons is seen on some of the issued notes in the entered section, so presumably this is the person in question.

Hutchins Thomas Williams signed most of the issued notes. His signature is seen in two formats: Hutchins T.Williams and H.T.Williams. Examples of the two signature variants are attached.
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Re: Gibbons & Williams. Dublin • 1833–1835

Post by ThePloughman » 03 Sep 2019 00:35

I guess the Gibbons clan put in some of the money to back the bank then as their name was prominent on the bank's bills.

Nice link, btw.

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